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Your browser does not support the audio element. Archive 2 Genesis. Copy the following link to share it Copy. You are currently listening to samples. On The Shoreline Digital Remaster. Hearts On Fire Digital Remaster. You Might Recall Digital Remaster. Paperlate Digital Remaster. Evidence Of Autumn Digital Remaster. Do The Neurotic Digital Remaster.
Naminanu Digital Remaster. Inside And Out Digital Remaster. Feeding The Fire Digital Remaster. Submarine Digital Remaster. DISC 2. I Can't Dance 12'' Version. Disc 2. Illegal Alien Live. Dreaming While You Sleep Live. It's Gonna Get Better Live. Deep In the Motherlode Live. Ripples Live. The Brazilian Live. Your Own Special Way Live.
Burning Rope Live. Entangled Live. Dukes Travels Live. Disc 3. Invisible Touch 12'' Version. Land of Confusion 12'' Version. Tonight, Tonight, Tonight 12'' Version.
No Reply At All Live. The twelve inch versions here are much more enjoyable than the "We Can't Dance" 12". Some of these "remixes" are even proggier than the original album cuts. I'm not to fond of the live releases on this disc. They seem somewhat random, and in my opinion, are not performed as well as those on the second disc. The B-sides and singles aren't even that good this time around. The last track Mama work in progress is actually quite enjoyable.
It and the 12"s are the best tracks on the third disc. The third disc is definitely the least representative and interesting. This box set is good for Genesis completists or those who are fans of the Collins era. I find myself enjoying some of the tracks, but in the end, this set is for the completist, and that is why the set gets two stars. This is for the collectors and fans of Collins Genesis that is.
The second of the "Archive" box sets covers the post-Gabriel period which saw Genesis gradually move away from the fine progressive rock they had created while he was on board. Like it or not though, it also covers the most commercially successful period for the band, and thus this collection will therefore probably have a far wider appeal than volume one.
The only album recorded after the period covered by this set was the Album "Calling all stations", and of course by that time Collins too had left. It is unfortunate that the compilers chose not to present the tracks here chronologically, as it would have been significant to hear the way their sound mutated from "A trick of the tail" to "Abacab" and "Invisible touch" before the more reassuring finale with "We can't dance".
What we end up with is an eclectic mix of previously unreleased recordings, non-album tracks, early studio versions, remixes, and live versions. The rejects include those studio tracks included on the fourth side of some releases of "Three sides live", with the exception of "Me and Virgil", which was deemed by the band members even now to be unworthy of inclusion.
Also included is the excellent "Inside and out" from the "Spot the pigeons" EP, but interestingly not "Match of the day" from that EP, which the band also considered sub-standard, even for this collection! The first two tracks on this collection are from the "We can't dance" sessions.
We then jump about between and While "Evidence of autumn" is a "Duke" outtake, it would have been very much at home on "And then there were three". It is one of the few highlights of disc 1. Why on earth the reasonable instrumental "Submarine" was left off the dire "Abacab" album is a real mystery. At worst, it would have made for a reassuring instrumental break during one of the mediocre songs on that album. The second disc consists entirely of live performances recorded between and , the tracks having all originally appeared in studio format on the albums from that period.
It is perhaps easy to forget that Genesis did not turn their backs on their prog roots the minute Gabriel left in fact, it could be said that he was the first to turn. The live versions of "Ripples", "Duke's travels", "Burning rope", and "Entangled" which are included here, are fine reminders of that golden age. Steve Hackett is only present on one of the live tracks, "Ripples" which also features Bill Bruford on drums , and only a couple of the studio tracks are from the time when he was still in the band.
There are several 12" single versions of more familiar tracks, such as "I can't dance", "Invisible touch" and "Tonight ,tonight, tonight". These add nothing to the pop driven originals, only serving to remind us of the depths this once great band sank to. It could be argued that the fact that these tracks lend themselves so readily to the 12" remix treatment is evidence enough of how far they strayed.
Apart from three of these 12" versions, disc 3 has a further three entirely disposable live tracks from and some older, much more interesting outtakes. The excitement of finding an outtake from the "Trick of the tail" sessions rapidly evaporates as it becomes clear why "It's yourself" was omitted from the album.
It is not entirely without value though, as part of the latter half went on to become the intro to "Los Endos". The final track is a "Work in progress" version of "Mama".
The lyrics had yet to be written, so Collins is improvising sounds where the vocals will eventually go. The track is interesting in that it gives an insight into how Genesis went about developing their music, but at nearly 11 minutes, it becomes tedious. The two Genesis Archives sets are split neatly between the Gabriel and Collins led eras, thus this second volume takes us from the first post Gabriel album "A trick of the tail", up to Collin's swansong "We can't dance".
Neither this, not volume one should be mistaken for anthologies as neither contains any studio material which has previously appeared on the band's official albums. Disc one contains outakes tracks from several album sessions and some B-side material. The extended version of "I Can't Dance" is also questionable: the album version was already dull, so an extended 7 minutes one is even more boring.
Actually this song is above par with this album and I do not understand why it did not make it. Probably not commercial enough! The last ones in this category are "Heart On Fire" and "Feeding" which are the usual Collins oriented stuff. Other songs are good to even very good :"Evidence of Autumn" from the "Duke" sessions already released on the US version of "Three Sides Live" - this is also the case for "Paper Late" by the way.
My favourite track of this CD is "Submarine". This B-side is a slow instrumental and almost noinaudible during two minutes : you really have to turn up the volume to max. This is the one I prefer on this compilation. I was quite happy to hear two tracks from "And then they Were Three". The band usually skipped this album from their live sets with the exception of its supporting tour which can be heard on the unoffical "Follow You, Follow Me" album recorded at Chicago Uptown Theatre - October 13, This is understandable since most of the other ones are featured on "Seconds Out".
One can only regret that the best song out of it "Mad Man Moon" has never been played live this information is available on the Genesis official web-site.
But they don't tell us why! On the other hand, I was dispointed that there is only one song from "Wind " and not the best one : "Your Own Special Way". This would have been a better choice. The highlight of disc two, for sure. The last three numbers come from what I consider their weakest albums, so there is no big deal here.
Disc three is the weakest from these "Archives" like disc four was for "Archives I". A lot of 12" versions of poor songs from their less creative studio career.
This version is quieter than the one we know, and honestly I do prefer this version. Same applies to "Vancouver". The most interesting one IMO is "It's Yourself" : it seems to be an earlier version of "Los Endos" but with vocals during the first three minutes and a very quiet end a bit in the style of "Dancing Out"!
I will rate this effort three stars. It is with a lot of emotion that this closes my reviews for Genesis. I reviewed a total of twenty-four works. I have done this in the course of the last two months writing a lot more reviews from other beloved bands which will be posted soon.
I spent some fantastic moments listening again to some of their work. As you have noticed in my reviews, I am the old fan type from "Trespass" to "Duke". I have suffered a lot with their later work. In the early seventies, Genesis was my preferred band and probably one of the most influent of the prog rock genre of all time. You were integrant part of my life when I was a teenager and I remind this period of my life with great emotions.
Again, thank you very, very, very much. This three disc set complies some otherwise unavailable Genesis songs, the most interesting being the non-album b-sides. Hearts On Fire, on the other hand, which was the b-side to Jesus He Knows Me, is a much lesser song which would have been a sore thumb on the album which has its bad moments.
This one sounds more like a Phil Collins solo number, which is hardly a compliment! You Might Recall is an older song and was originally released on the 3x3 EP in together with Paperlate also featured in this box set and Me and Virgil not featured here.
Both Paperlate and You Might Recall are dispensable and the former is incredibly trite! Evidence Of Autumn is a good song that was the b-side to Misunderstanding single from the Duke album. The song is very much in the style of Duke. Prog it is not, though. Do The Neurotic is an instrumental that originally appeared as the b-side to the Land Of Confusion single from the Invisible Touch album and it is in the style of The Brazilian from that album.
This one is at least semi-progressive and quite decent with nice guitar and keyboard work. I'd Rather Be You quickly brings us down to earth, this is possibly the worst of the songs here even though the competition for that position is fierce! This song first appeared as the b-side to In Too Deep also from Invisible Touch, though it sounds more like an outtake from Abacab. Naminau is from the Abacab days, and it is another stinker; extremely repetitive and very annoying.
Inside And Out was one of the three tracks from the Spot The Pigeon EP from and is thus the first track here that goes back to the Steve Hackett-era and as such it is the first track here that might interest the Prog purist.
The other song from Spot The Pigeon that appears here is Pigeons, but strangely that one is relegated to the third disc. Feeding The Fire once again brings us back to the commercial period of Invisible Touch, this one was also a b-side to Land Of Confusion. The first disc is rounded out by an unnecessary 12" version of I Can't Dance and the floating instrumental Submarine, which was the b-side to Man On The Corner from the Abacab album.
The second disc consists entirely of live recordings of familiar songs from various sources. As such there is not much interest in it, with several other live albums out there. It sounds rather incoherent given that it is not a single concert, but songs recorded over a period spanning from the late 70's to the early 90's.
Some nice moments, but hardly essential given what is available elsewhere. The third disc contains further unnecessary 12" mixes of familiar songs and a few further live recordings. With the exception of Mama Work In Progress , the rest of disc three holds further non-album studio recordings.
This is very welcome with some of the most interesting selection of the box coming at the end.
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